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SEAT BELTS

   

SEAT BELTS AND INSTALLATION INFORMATION  PROVIDED BY JOHN YOUNG FROM SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS (John provided me with this information shortly after the accident in which two members of our club was killed ON May 7th, 2005).

 John’s Information.

 

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I have tried to show you in the photos below how I installed front seat belts in my ’30 Tudor.  My objective was to have metal to metal attachments to the body only and no wood.  You will note that my seats are mounted in a non-traditional fashion to give me room to work the controls.  I am a big guy with long legs and even a Tudor was tight for me.  Forget a coupe, roadster or pickup.  I made those seat extensions so the seat would still fold forward and yet give me a good range of seat attachment using the standard pivot points.  If any are interested I can share my pix of the parts I welded up. Materials: 1.  One set of front MOPAR 71” metal to metal buckle belts with bolt-in  attachments.  New belts off E-bay for about $20/set.  Any bolt-in belts will do and retractables are an option as well. 2.  1 ½” wide X ¼” thick strap iron.  Home Depot.             2 ea about 9” pieces for the side rail attachments  measure your space under the rails             1 ea 21” piece for the center metal channel under the middle of the cabin floor, ½” hole in center for both buckle receptacle ends 3.  3 ea 1 ½” X ½” – 16 grade 8 bolts, nuts, large grade 8 washers and lock washers You see the materials are at a minimum. The long belts were attached at the floor side rails below the rear quarter windows.  The 9” pieces of iron were fit into the channel above the splash rails.  There is room to reach under there to thread and secure the nuts, etc.  You will note the 9” pieces had the holes closer to one end than the other.  This was to get the maximum length of metal and still have the belt attachment far enough to the rear to have a good angle on the front seat cushion.  Obviously I drilled the holes first  in the body and then drilled the reinforcement plates to match. The plates were cleaned, sand blasted lightly and coated using satin black POR 15. That’s it, no rocket science.  Do I believe the belts will save us in a crash like the Cooks?  probably not.  However, the stability you feel in the car with the belts makes a huge difference and I feel I have better feel and control of the car.  My wife is quite crippled and you may see some handrails on the passenger side that help her a great deal.  However, without the belts the old rock and roll of the “A” was very hard for her to take.  She is so much more comfortable with the belts. I hope this helps and please let me know if you would like any more detail on any of the above.  Or better yet, bring your cars to San Antonio and we will do them in my shop – it’s air conditioned!  How is that for an offer?  be more to come. I just have to assemble more data 
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IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION OR GUIDANCE ON THIS SUBJECT THAT YOU WOULD SHARE, I WILL BE MOST HAPPY TO ADDIT TO THIS SITE.
Thank you,  Dick Burton

 

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